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		<title>Consensus, Consent, and Objections</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon Villines]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Heresy, I know, but I think Holacracy has a good point in using &#8220;objections&#8221; and not &#8220;consent.&#8221; Brian says in his Introduction to Holacracy video: &#8220;Consent has no place in Holacracy.&#8221; We want to hear objections to the proposal.<br />
Restrictions on Consent<br />
One of my criticisms of groups using full-group consensus is that first they commit to one for all, and all for one, then they begin putting restrictions on it. All for one and&#8230; <a href="https://www.sociocracy.info/consensus-consent-objections/" class="read-more">Read More . . . <span class="screen-reader-text"> &#8220;Consensus, Consent, and Objections&#8221;</span></a></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heresy, I know, but I think Holacracy has a good point in using &#8220;objections&#8221; and not &#8220;consent.&#8221; Brian says in his Introduction to Holacracy video: &#8220;Consent has no place in Holacracy.&#8221; We want to hear objections to the proposal.</p>
<h3>Restrictions on Consent</h3>
<p>One of my criticisms of groups using full-group consensus is that first they commit to one for all, and all for one, then they begin putting restrictions on it. All for one and one for all <em>except</em> when only one person doesn&#8217;t consent. Or except when only 10% don&#8217;t consent. And that the objection has to be based on group values, which are often non-existent or unclear in respect the policy.<br />
People who consent are never asked for the reasoning behind their consent. What restrictions are placed on consent? What does it mean? Do people explain their reasoning?<br />
The number of restrictions placed on withholding consent proliferate almost as soon as consensus is adopted. Even sociocracy adds  restricts consent to  &#8220;paramount and reasoned.&#8221; &#8220;Reasoned&#8221; is logical but &#8220;paramount&#8221; is in the eye of the beholder. Who ever refused to consent who didn&#8217;t think their objection was paramount?</p>
<h3>Consent Means No Objections</h3>
<p>Holacracy has avoided the ambiguity and contradictions of the words <em>consent</em> and <em>consensus</em> by going straight to the definition that Gerard Endenburg realized would work in a performance-based organization in the first place — &#8220;no objections.&#8221;<br />
I suggest that it is a historical artifact that the word &#8220;consent&#8221; exists at all in Endenburg&#8217;s implementation. Just as I think it was a historical artifact in Comte&#8217;s to think that a panel of sociologists should be, not just advise the government. He was steeped in autocratic his experience of a single ruler or ruling body. In 1850s France, democracy was admired but not all so accepted as practical. It&#8217;s cracks were showing even then.<br />
In the 1940s, Boeke clearly meant consensus in the traditional Quaker sense. Everyone had to consent that a proposed action was in the best interests of the whole and all individual interests had to be considered. Even though Endenburg was educated in Boeke&#8217;s tradition, he actually stepped outside it in his method by using the logic of the physical sciences, not religion or politics.</p>
<h3>The Basis of Objections</h3>
<p>Endenburg based his definition of consent on the absence of objections and objections based on a specific criterion — the ability to work (or function) toward the aim if the proposed action took place. Consent is written in<em> Sociocracy</em> (1988) as &#8220;consent (no objections).&#8221; Since &#8220;consent&#8221; was the historically accepted word, he naturally used the word &#8220;consent.&#8221;<br />
And I&#8217;m also sure he meant consent in the spirit of being inclusive. In the 1960s and 70s when he was developing his ideas there was a general reaction in the Western World to the exclusiveness and elitism of society. &#8220;Objection&#8221; was a harder sell with revelations of WWII still emerging. Objections had made no difference. <em>Consent</em> would have been more acceptable.</p>
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